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Old 06-24-2010, 07:11 PM
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@ doaa meto - Dont worry carry on the way you are writing, its fine, I can make heads and tails of it!

On this forum women from all around world come online and post, you cant expect everyone to be perfect in English, especially if its not a first spoken language in their country.

I like your posts doaa meto, especially in this thread, finding them interesting to read
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:18 PM
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Admin and others,
I am not disparaging or making fun of Doaa for her English, of course
I understand that all people around the world will not speak perfect English
that everyone understands, but to have a honest conversation both
parties have to make an effort to communicate properly. All I asked
was explanation of what some of her words mean, I don't think that
is unreasonable at all.

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With the participation of my reviews will fairest one wish to be understood by you and have a good connection, I thank you all for your contributions greetings and respect for all







Of course this is a personal choice for all the choices I have pros and cons of
these negatives can affect our whole life, does not it

As for virginity, which means for me chastity and this is what I want explained

When you lose without marriage, it is considered adultery This is confirmed by all monotheistic religions on the ground, this taboo whether banter before having sex or sex full full

Thus, this matter is not of our choice because it would provoke the wrath of God because dealing with sex marriage in order to exercise any sex or foreplay footmen woman must be her husband .


And you know very well that violates the orders of God, punishment of hell


He said the idea even more and more will provide the Virgin Mary


Because it is an example of chastity in the heavenly religions


Why nicknamed this name ??????????

Of course, it followed the commands of God and carried out and maintained her chastity even after giving birth to Christ Jesus the son of the Virgin Mary


And I want your discussion in which ........


Why are you not afraid of hell ????????


Why Why do you get angry with God and exercising sex without marriage ????????????


do not want to provoke the anger of God and do not want to go to hell, so I will never unprotected sex But only with my husband

Because I want to enter heaven

And what about you you ?????????????

What do you want ????????????

(I wish you to understand this within my means in the English language I do not think there are more than that is the university's Masth /They understood the limits of my abilities in the English language I do not think and I also hope that there is effective responses and in the scope of the topic and the responses of serious and not comic or a joke and thank you all for your participation has pleased me a lot and respect you all ).
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:54 PM
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And I want your discussion in which ........


Why are you not afraid of hell ????????


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The answer is simple - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELL.
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@Admin and Doaa meto

whoever said i had any disrespect for doaa i am simply saying i cannot understand most of her posts.


But since a lot many others do understand her i guess this is not really an issue ...
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:17 AM
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@Admin and Doaa meto

whoever said i had any disrespect for doaa i am simply saying i cannot understand most of her posts.


But since a lot many others do understand her i guess this is not really an issue ...
lot many others = 1 (rubes)

We have 3 people who don't understand her (F, BB, and Z)
We have 1 person who understands (R)
We have one person who didn't tell if she understood or not (Admin)

;-)

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ahem..... ........

heaven and hell



virginity i agree might make the difference between the two to some

a lot many might be in heaven coz they have lost it

and a lot many in hell, coz they haven't lost it and cant lose it fast enough

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lot many others = 1 (rubes)

We have 3 people who don't understand her (F, BB, and Z)
We have 1 person who understands (R)
We have one person who didn't tell if she understood or not (Admin)

;-)

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Is this true farce you do not understand what I say I'm really surprised if you need to understand what I say, how you respond to my posts ?????????????????????? I think you understand what you want to understand / and do not understand what you do not want to understand it, does not it

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ahem..... ........

heaven and hell



virginity i agree might make the difference between the two to some

a lot many might be in heaven coz they have lost it

and a lot many in hell, coz they haven't lost it and cant lose it fast enough
Bravo I think you love pranks often, does not it Be serious about the topics that need to be serious

I want to tell you something that I still do not understand the meaning of the word (heck) and also the word (coz )
And I did this not lead to any problem I never and I can understand you well. Have you ever asked yourself why I understand what you says and you do not understand what I say ???????????
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The answer is simple - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELL.

what???????????????????????

I do not think there is religion in this forum does not say that there is no committee and hell ??????? If there is no committee or hell, why do you think that you go after death ???????????
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Is this true farce you do not understand what I say I'm really surprised if you need to understand what I say, how you respond to my posts ?????????????????????? I think you understand what you want to understand / and do not understand what you do not want to understand it, does not it



Bravo I think you love pranks often, does not it Be serious about the topics that need to be serious

I want to tell you something that I still do not understand the meaning of the word (heck) and also the word (coz )
And I did this not lead to any problem I never and I can understand you well. Have you ever asked yourself why I understand what you says and you do not understand what I say ???????????
what the heck means what the hell ? its form of expressing surprise like what the heck do you think you are doing ... give me back my t shirt....

coz is the slang for because
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Is this true farce you do not understand what I say I'm really surprised if you need to understand what I say, how you respond to my posts ?????????????????????? I think you understand what you want to understand / and do not understand what you do not want to understand it, does not it
Honestly I don't understand certain words and phrases you use.
for example 'committee'. what exactly do you mean by
committee and hell????


thanks
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what???????????????????????

I do not think there is religion in this forum does not say that there is no committee and hell ??????? If there is no committee or hell, why do you think that you go after death ???????????
first please tell me what 'committee' means.

nobody knows where they will go after death. Where do you think
you will go after death? Heaven? Hell? Hades? Purgatory? the Hindu Naraga?
the Muslim Jahannam? the Budhist Avici? greek Tartarus? Maya Xibalba?

-F

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but you Zilsha can go on telling us all .. we are able to understand your language


so tell me


why is "virginity " important for you ?
I know the discussion has gone a long way but since you have asked me why its important to me, iam bound to answer you my viewpoint..

For me virginity matters.. I am a sort of a person who firmly believes to abstain from sex before marriage.. I want to be physical only with my life partner..(ie my husband., only after marriage)
I attach lot of importance to virginity and so sex before marriage is unethical and unacceptable for me. The main reason behind my strong advocacy of maintaining virginity and engaging in sex only after marriage is mainly because of my upbringing on such moral grounds.. My religious views consider sex before marriage as an unforgivable sin,, and above all its something which i dont appreciate also.. I value virginity as something special..


At this context i would like to mention about Hymenoplasty(Its a hymen restoration surgery) which many are found to opt just to fake themselves as virgin.. Isnt it weird??????????

@ doaa meto:

I said that i couldnt make out your points as you are intending to say it.. Hope we all will get through this thing and break down the barriers of linguistic ambiguities..

Back to the topic... To be frank i couldnt get all the things which you have posted..but from what i have understood let me reply..
Even i consider virginity as something to be respected and valued...

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Old 06-25-2010, 02:06 PM
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thanks for explaining, I respect your right to have that opinion.

It all boils down to culture and religion doesn't it?

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I know the discussion has gone a long way but since you have asked me why its important to me, iam bound to answer you my viewpoint..

For me virginity matters.. I am a sort of a person who firmly believes to abstain from sex before marriage.. I want to be physical only with my life partner..(ie my husband., only after marriage)
I attach lot of importance to virginity and so sex before marriage is unethical and unacceptable for me. The main reason behind my strong advocacy of maintaining virginity and engaging in sex only after marriage is mainly because of my upbringing on such moral grounds.. My religious views consider sex before marriage as an unforgivable sin,, and above all its something which i dont appreciate also.. I value virginity as something special..


At this context i would like to mention about Hymenoplasty(Its a hymen restoration surgery) which many are found to opt just to fake themselves as virgin.. Isnt it weird??????????

@ doaa meto:

I said that i couldnt make out your points as you are intending to say it.. Hope we all will get through this thing and break down the barriers of linguistic ambiguities..

Back to the topic... To be frank i couldnt get all the things which you have posted..but from what i have understood let me reply..
Even i consider virginity as something to be respected and valued...
i get your point .... its a special gift sort of thing for your husband
and then its a sin.


in that order ?


nothing weird about hymnoplasty...

didnt you ask whether everything is ok as long as the hymen is intact

this is just a way to make sure its intact again even if you do happen to break it ...
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Honestly I don't understand certain words and phrases you use.
for example 'committee'. what exactly do you mean by
committee and hell????


thanks
-F

committe That's a joke

first please tell me what 'committee' means.

nobody knows where they will go after death. Where do you think
you will go after death? Heaven? Hell? Hades? Purgatory? the Hindu Naraga?
the Muslim Jahannam? the Budhist Avici? greek Tartarus? Maya Xibalba?

-F
Why are you angry ?????????


I know What do you say

We all wish ( heaven )

but/we do not know Where we go after death and this was confirmed by the [COLOR="Red"]Islamic religion [/COLOR

My question was in response to what you say (Originally Posted by farce The answer is simple - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELL )

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what the heck means what the hell ? its form of expressing surprise like what the heck do you think you are doing ... give me back my t shirt....

coz is the slang for because

I do not know the slang for you ( I am an Arab )


Do not worry this does not affect never understand what you says

I'm trying to understand what you are saying as I can

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I know the discussion has gone a long way but since you have asked me why its important to me, iam bound to answer you my viewpoint..

For me virginity matters.. I am a sort of a person who firmly believes to abstain from sex before marriage.. I want to be physical only with my life partner..(ie my husband., only after marriage)
I attach lot of importance to virginity and so sex before marriage is unethical and unacceptable for me. The main reason behind my strong advocacy of maintaining virginity and engaging in sex only after marriage is mainly because of my upbringing on such moral grounds.. My religious views consider sex before marriage as an unforgivable sin,, and above all its something which i dont appreciate also.. I value virginity as something special..


At this context i would like to mention about Hymenoplasty(Its a hymen restoration surgery) which many are found to opt just to fake themselves as virgin.. Isnt it weird??????????

@ doaa meto:

I said that i couldnt make out your points as you are intending to say it.. Hope we all will get through this thing and break down the barriers of linguistic ambiguities..

Back to the topic... To be frank i couldnt get all the things which you have posted..but from what i have understood let me reply..
Even i consider virginity as something to be respected and valued...
We have modified my post made you understand what I say more and more

I am so sorry to all if they can not understand what I say, but I try but I exhausted all attempts Even make you Understand

Put links to explain the idea

There is no more

I think that my idea is very clear

It is in English without Errors

I'm sorry again for all

Back to the topic ... Zilsha Shah I'm happy for what I read (Virginity is really something to be valued )

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thanks for explaining, I respect your right to have that opinion.

It all boils down to culture and religion doesn't it?

-F

It all boils down to religion only


Because God governs the world ( Not the people )

Religion Be a fixed base
( Unchanging by culture )

For example :-(Christian says no divorce )

Culture allows divorce


Whether in this case The Christian can divorce because the culture has decided that ??????????????????????????
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I read what you have written and gave me headache.
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Why are you angry ?????????
who said I was angry???? I am not angry at all....


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It all boils down to religion only


Because God governs the world ( Not the people )
who? Allah, Jesus, Krishna, Budha or Rama?

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Religion Be a fixed base
( Unchanging by culture )

For example :-(Christian says no divorce )

Culture allows divorce


Whether in this case The Christian can divorce because the culture has decided that ??????????????????????????
I am sure there are millions of christians who are divorced.

what's your point???

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committeee ???
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i get your point .... its a special gift sort of thing for your husband
and then its a sin.


in that order ?


nothing weird about hymnoplasty...

didnt you ask whether everything is ok as long as the hymen is intact

this is just a way to make sure its intact again even if you do happen to break it ...
I hope i have made myself clear on how much important is virginity to me...


Regarding Hymenoplasty....Heyyy i was trying to mention about those who have already had sexual intercourse and have lost their virginity and then go for hymen restoration surgery just to satisfy thier partner and convince them of being virgins.. Isnt that a weird thing and cheating..??
I would also like to point out that this have lead to controversies in many countries and this surgery is banned on moral grounds in some countries..

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thanks for explaining, I respect your right to have that opinion.

It all boils down to culture and religion doesn't it?

-F
Thanks...

Yeah., its strongly associated religious beliefs as well as the culture...

@doaa meto:
God governs the world but man is not an island., he is a social being, he has to interact with society and people and i dont think any religion will preach men to stay isolated from fellow beings.. Hence culture and society also plays role.. Hope you got me..???

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@ doaa meto : Do you type in Arabic and then use google translate to get English translation and copy paste here?
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I read what you have written and gave me headache.
Thank you for your post

I hope to see effective posts in the thread

I am sorry About headaches

be civilized

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@ doaa meto : Do you type in Arabic and then use google translate to get English translation and copy paste here?
I do not use google to translate

I use the word programe only to correct spelling errors

if it find

why?

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who said I was angry???? I am not angry at all....




who? Allah, Jesus, Krishna, Budha or Rama?

of course Allah only



I am sure there are millions of christians who are divorced.

what's your point???

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this is not what I mean

this is just an example


Whether true or not

Is just in order to clarify the idea

That Allah decide to you what to do to enter heaven


Cultural decide for yourself what to do in order to be civilized man only

this mean that:-
You Made Culture / Therefore, culture should not change the teachings of your religion

this is what I mean.

Zilsha Shah

My question is where are the men of religion ?????

why they do not play their role?????????

but what do you mean ( man is not an island )??????
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@ doaa meto - Dont worry carry on the way you are writing, its fine, I can make heads and tails of it!

On this forum women from all around world come online and post, you cant expect everyone to be perfect in English, especially if its not a first spoken language in their country.

I like your posts doaa meto, especially in this thread, finding them interesting to read
thanks for you Rubes

and for your kindness

this is for you

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That Allah decide to you what to do to enter heaven


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What if I don't believe in Allah, do his rules still apply to me???

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Cultural decide for yourself what to do in order to be civilized man only

this mean that:-
You Made Culture / Therefore, culture should not change the teachings of your religion

this is what I mean.

Zilsha Shah

My question is where are the men of religion ?????

why they do not play their role?????????

but what do you mean ( man is not an island )??????
No man is an island is a phrase to denote man is not an isolated being..
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In this case/I tell you (You have a religion and I have a religion )

can I know what is your nationality And your religion ?????????

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thanks for your Explanation


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