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Old 05-09-2009, 11:02 PM
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I am not a feminist but I do have pretty strong egalitarian ideas and principles whether it has to so with the genders or classes or races.

I am usually very perturbed when people talk and act in politically incorrect ways, but most often than not almost everyone considers that the rules can be relaxed when it comes to the issue of gender. I have lost the count of times in which I have sat through and have had to retaliate to biased and chauvinistic individuals or groups. Why is it that normally sensible, sensitive and smart folks talk in crude and crass ways when it comes to talking about females? It doesn’t matter what the socio- economic background is most people seem to consider it is acceptable to talk about women as objects to be pitied and ordered around.

I am sure I am not saying what any of you haven’t heard before. Try counting the number of times you have heard females being advised to obey, respect or to be docile. How many times have you heard females talked about being pathetic drivers, having no sense of time, shopaholics, attention seeking……. etc. Sometimes I wonder what all this fuss is about classing females as being either this way or that way. I mean aren’t we females also as individualistic as men and don’t all of us too have our very own characteristic traits and strengths. Aren’t there good female drivers just like there are good men drivers or good cooks and bad cooks in either gender?

So what is the answer to this question? I personally think its some sort of insecurity that prompts men to do this. may be it worries them to have to deal with all of us with our very differing attitudes, needs, wants and opinions. Or may be it scares them to feel that today’s women challenge the social superiority men have had over the centuries.

To take another angle on this question may be it has got to do with gaining acceptance within the male gender. Think about it, there are so many derogatory words that men call each other, mama’s boy, hen pecked, to name a few. The classing of females and talking about them as if they aren’t equal to men may have its roots here , may be at some level acceptance in the peer group comes when you have become man, a man who disparages women, one who not only feels that he is different from women but also thinks they are inferior to him. Probably as they mature the smart ones out grow this and learn to be refined and egalitarian. Doubtless it still leaves the men who still need the protection of a group and continue to class women under the guise that they feel themselves to be superior. I think they need to be awakened to the fact that they are past puberty and are now being very politically incorrect sexists.


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i have experienced it before and still am experiencing such situations. guys do not seem comfortable with girls who are earning higher. one guy told me that he will have the last say in the house if we get married to each other. i was earning higher than him at that time.it is really frustrating to come across people like this.

women seem to be oppressed everywhere in this world...the chauvinistic syndrome is existent everywhere ....only the percentage seem varied...
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i have experienced it before and still am experiencing such situations. guys do not seem comfortable with girls who are earning higher. one guy told me that he will have the last say in the house if we get married to each other. i was earning higher than him at that time.it is really frustrating to come across people like this.
Do you think that the person who earns higher must rule over the other ?
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no......y such a stupid logic????
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no......y such a stupid logic????
u talkin to me ??
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Do you think that the person who earns higher must rule over the other ?
No, of course not. I believe in team work. Husband and wife should be like a team,growing together, encourgaing each other, etc
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@liza
In my opinion, as long as its in discusion/suggestion both can actively participate , but when it comes to decision making, i think only one of them should do it (either husband/wife). In my house for eg, each person handles different thing, say dad for finance,investment, mom for budget etc. that way its possible to avoid the mentioned situation.

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Yes , its indeed true that happens a lot. But entire blame lies not only guys, but on the soceity as a whole. Indeed there are cases when women suppress other women, too isn't it, and no its not a minority.

As such our soceity has fixed rules for guys(meant for jobs) and women(meant for house work), and children are being brought up, so its no wonder that as adults they behave the way they do.unless there is a change from root , there very low chances of weeding this out.
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Omg I apologize in advance for bringing up my ex, YET AGAIN, but this is another one of the reasons I broke up with my ex. He seems to think (altho he says he's 'not that way') that women are not as smart as men, they need to be in the kitchen.. etc. It just got to the point where I couldn't stand it anymore. I need to be treated equally, or I'm out...

so I'm out
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